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He’s just so much of a perfectionist that he just wanted to pick the right one.
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But usually, he loved every time I did the drums.
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I really didn’t have to do the drums too many times over. How many times did you have to redo the drums on "Real Friends" to get it just right? I guess the other stuff was being done separately. The only people I was in the studio with when I was working was just Kanye and Noah. Were you guys all in the studio at one time? There’s additional production by Darren King, Mike Dean, Noah Goldstein. The final credits on “Real Friends” have you, Boi-1da, Frank Dukes and Havoc. So there are still songs that didn’t make the album that you never know in the future. How many records have you guys worked on? It was like all different kind of vibes going on, but all of them real positive. You know what I’m saying? Let’s get this work done. Sometimes it would be a party atmosphere sometimes it would be real somber. I don’t know where I’d probably be if he didn’t help out. When he came in and gave me his expertise, it was him really looking out for a brother. I aspired for my music to sound that good-the drums in particular. I always looked at that as a benchmark for production. To this day, it’s some of the best music that I ever heard in hip-hop. The music they put out-sonically-was just ridiculous. I was a huge fan of A Tribe Called Quest. He was one of the producers that came in and actually helped me cultivate my sound. Making the sound a little bit thicker, fatter, wider and stuff like that. It’s a little bit more enhanced as I gain more knowledge about the equipment that I'm working with. And to come with an album, to produce it and for it to go Gold, it really told me like, "I think I could make a career out of not only being an MC, but being a producer.” Before that, I hadn’t really produced for anybody. I would have to say when I completed The Infamous album. What was your first breakthrough in production when you realized you developed your own sound? Last week, we hopped on the phone with Havoc to break down his experience with Yeezy, when he first heard the final versions of “Real Friends” and “Famous,” and if he’ll get called on again to do more Pablo work downt he line. You get one of them kind of tracks when you're fucking with me.” On a Tuesday night-nothing is popping off. By now, hip-hop fans know what they can expect when Havoc’s name appears on an LP: “You just get that 'all in the room by yourself feeling.' Dark. Q-Tip, a major influence on Havoc’s production style, was the one who nudged Yeezy to work with him on The Life of Pablo. Surprisingly, Havoc revealed that this is the first time him and ‘Ye got together in the studio to make music. West, who has an impeccable ear for production and can bring the best out of his guests, brought in Mobb Deep’s Havoc to do drum programming on TLOP. The veteran producer is credited on two songs- “Real Friends” and “Famous”-but he says they’ve made several records together during the TLOP sessions that might come out in the future. Kanye West’s The Life of Pablo has such a diverse cast of collaborators that it's easy to overlook some gems on the record.